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Post by cheshire on Mar 21, 2006 8:12:37 GMT
There's a list of risk factors at the back of Elaine Hanzak's book - I can't remember who wrote the list (sorry I'll check when I go upstairs) , but it was someone well known in the field...I could tick a fair few boxes on that one.
Hxxx
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Post by lisauk on Apr 10, 2006 12:43:54 GMT
Hey,
Although I cannot pin-point just one factor I do think the biggest has been my horrible childhood. I used to get kicked, punched, thrown and pulled by my mother which is bad enough but then to have mental abuse its even worse than the physical, in my opinion. I also encountered sexual abuse myself and witnessed sexual abuse due to my mothers negligence. After a month or so after Jessica's birth I started to worry about me hurting her in the way my mother did. Of course I would never do that but I began to believe I would. I have carried my insecurities from childhood with me until now and they will always be there so it effects my self-worth and I always think I'm a bad mum.
Lisa x
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Post by Jo on Jun 27, 2006 16:53:50 GMT
Mine has to be the horrendous birth and treatment by hospital staff. The lack of information about what had happened to me, and the fact i didnt get to hold Becca until almost 12 hours after she was born - and i was so out of it i dont remember holding her
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Post by Rapunzelle on Jun 29, 2006 13:10:27 GMT
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Post by cheshire on Jun 29, 2006 13:36:51 GMT
Hi Rapunzelle I had a similar experience to you - - ''Hideous PNI with my second child''/ home birth/ supportive midwives/ easy baby at the beginning...(although the birth itself was very fast and painful etc.) PNI was the last thing I expected though Love and hugs Hopefulxx
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Post by Rapunzelle on Jun 29, 2006 20:50:55 GMT
Thank you for posting that. I have been feeling so much added pressure that I have no reason to be depressed! The fact that most people seem able to point to a genuine legitimate reason just makes me feel even more like a rather pathetic fraud. If only I could give that all important 'because...'
Thanks again R x
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Post by bagpuss on Jul 19, 2006 10:16:05 GMT
The biggest factor in my PNI was lack of support from family, and being stuck alone, at home with a baby and not having a clue what to do. Knowing that all my friends were getting on with their lives and careers also contributed.
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Post by cazfletcher on Jul 19, 2006 16:19:40 GMT
my mum and my midwife were great, every1 else, bastards!!! just read my birth story and youll see why
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Post by racinggirl on Jul 31, 2006 15:57:45 GMT
Can't pin-point one factor, but I think these contributed:
1. I think I was at risk from suffering from PNI due to previous miscarriage and bereavement
2. Threatened miscarriage in early pregnancy
3. Started feeling the dizziness in the later stages of pregnancy
4. Had symphysis pubis disorder postnatally 6 hours after delivery and was on crutches for 2 weeks. Treated badly in hospital due to this - how are you supposed to care for a newborn if you can't walk?
5. Family problems at end of the pregnancy
racinggirl x
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Post by sifreynir on Sept 13, 2006 14:26:12 GMT
I believe the major trigger for my PND was the way i was treated from healthcare 'professionals' right from my first pregancy aswell as my first pregnancy resulting in miscarrie. I wanted a homebirth from the start and was made to feel stupid for asking questions and not wanting their bog standard answers...when i miscarried later it just seemed to validate everything they had said and I just did as I was told from then on, ignoring ALL my better judgement and instincts. Looking back at my first experience I actually feel the tactics used by the so called professionals are akin to emotional abuse as used in domestic violence and I also feel this contributed to me subsequently walking into an abusive relationship - if the doctors and midwives treated me like that then of course...that is normal right? ? Thankfully I am now recovered, have all my braincells working correctly and enjoy being a nusiance to the consultants ;D
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Post by ambrosine on Jan 11, 2007 22:49:44 GMT
i totally agree regarding hormones. I as you know never thought one could get pni and not have an actual baby. However i knew, that having pnd once, from a miscarriage before, never thought that i could get it again. This time in such an awful way. Hormone shifts seem to be the underlying factor in my case . Not just the overload of hormones with the ivf/preganancy/miscarriage, but from progesterone and this little hormone, i whole heartedly believe is the underlying problem for pni sufferers. The pregnancy itself can make you feel elated. Your progesterone increase is like a high as it plateus your body to a steady balance, but the severe drop of progesterone after my ivf, and also after pregnancy, whether carrying to full term, has i believe altered my hormonal body state, causing me to have the depression/anxiety/abnormal thoughts /fears/paranoia/panic attacks ect.
I was never a nervous person. I never suffered from fears or anxieties, i worried in life like normal /average problems that people go through, but never suffered what im suffering now. Dark thoughts, are probably the most scariest symptom that i can explain, and reading the above message, i totally agree with the prognosis and susbsequent cause and effect. My doctor was sympathetic, and the councellor on the surgery was very very understanding about why i was suffering post natal illness, but the councellor i was sent to didnt understand, and didnt seem to relate my anxieties or problems, i was experiencing with pni but even questioned the fact that HOW CAN YOU CALL post natal and "illness"?? This held me back in really understanding my problems. Surely my past couldnt reflect what im feeling now? How can my childhood relate to these symptoms now? Well they cant....the shift in hormones both after pregnancy/miscarriage are i believe the fundemental cause of pni, and do beleive that we need to inform both doctors and mental health therapists that not all anxiety comes from conflict, but can also come from chemical inbalances.
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Post by snoopy on Mar 2, 2007 21:11:22 GMT
I think there are several factors that caused my PNI
Bad delivery and 2 months of nightmare breastfeeding so never really bonded with E Total sleep deprevation from the beginning of pregnancy E had colic for 6 months and then non-stop colds so cried a lot! Low self esteem and tendancy to focus on the negatives (from difficult childhood)
All these mean that all my expectations of being a mum were totally shattered and I don't think I could cope with that.
I think it's interesting how many other women on this have had similar experiences. Hope this adds to the research
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Post by ubu on Apr 4, 2007 8:13:50 GMT
My PNI was caused by two things. Firstly my baby was really premature so I had to just get on with being her nurse for two months and worrying solely about her. I didn't have time to think about me. Secondly, once the "trauma" was over, I was too stubborn to give myself a break, I'm a very capable person and I'm very proud. I tried to go it alone and didn't ask for help or rest at any point, I think I drove myself too hard really. Ubu xxx
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Post by owensmum75 on Apr 11, 2007 5:53:53 GMT
For me it was the birth experience. I had always said throughout my pre-natal appointments with my midwife that I didn't want a C-section. I wanted to experience the birth in a 'normal' way. The pushing etc... I was booked in to be induced on 7th December 2005 so off I went to the hospital. I got settled in and they attempted to get me started that afternoon but nothing happened.. They tried again the next day and again nothing happened. That evening I decided I couldn't stand another night stuck in the maternity ward so I went home. The doctor told me the risks but I just wanted to get out!! I went back the next morning and the whole thing started again! They decided to try and break my waters on the Friday evening and it worked. So off I went to the delivery room.. And everything stopped again. The midwife said I should get some sleep so I did until about 7am on Saturday. I had gas and air for the contractions then pethidine (which did nowt) and then had an epidural (which was bliss!) I had a couple of different consultants poke me around and then at 10am they decided I wasn't moving on enough and it was time to get Owen out. This meant a C-section. This is when I shut down. I refused to talk to anyone even my partner. I didn't acknowledge anything that was happening to me. Even when my partner started crying in theatre I ignored him. I just didn't care about anything or anyone. The section went fine and I cried when I first saw Owen. It was like the last hour hadn't happened. I was fine looking after him for the first six months then I started feeling down most of the time. Like I couldn't cope and that I was a bad mother. I even had thoughts about letting someone take Owen away. I just didn't want him around anymore. It was my decision to get help for myself as the midwife had stopped visiting after 2 months so wasn't there to notice anything. My doctor decided that I should give counselling a go and it was the best thing I ever did. It gave me a chance to get everything out in the open. Even admitting how I felt towards Owen. Thankfully I've come though it and out the other side! There is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by kym on Sept 4, 2007 15:19:43 GMT
When I had PNI the first time, with my second child, I ahd just moved to a new area, had no friends and my partner was cheating. This time round I have no idea..my kids are great, my new partner's fantastic..I honestly couldn't say.
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