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Post by newwie on Jan 9, 2006 12:13:48 GMT
HI What are the actuall symptoms of this illness. Anyone have a list they could add newwie
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Post by cheshire on Jan 14, 2006 1:36:28 GMT
Hi Newwie I really don't know and I suppose as with PNI/D, those who've suffered PP will know better than anyone else....but like you... I wish I had a fuller understanding of this illness. The only leaflet I have read on PP is here: www.rcpsych.ac.uk/info/factsheets/pfacchild.aspTake care Hx
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Post by newwie on Jan 14, 2006 9:29:57 GMT
HI I wonder why they do not list th symptons like they do with pni. I wonder if its the same but more severe and can get a few other things with it, i dont know only guessing. I know i havent had it my self but my mum did but she will not talk about it. It would be nice to have an understanding of it. Also i heard that if your mum suffered it you are more likely to get it? I wonder if this is true or not? Newwie
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Post by cheshire on Jan 15, 2006 16:12:56 GMT
Hi
That's an interesting question. My Nan had PP and her granddaughter did too (not me) . I had severe PND - my mum had this too.
It's a shame your mum won't talk about it - my mum is not keen either - but my dad has told me about some of the things she did (pretty extreme).
Thinking of you Hopefulxx
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Post by susanneb1984 on Jan 15, 2006 16:20:14 GMT
I agree, PP should be more widely discussed. To be honest I didn't even know it existed before I came on here, so a further understanding would be good.
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Post by newwie on Jan 18, 2006 9:26:16 GMT
Why is it that people that suffer this hardly ever talk about it. Maybe its too painfull i dont know but my mum had this and she refuses to talk about it. But if they did im sure that it would help others too. Shame really. We should maybe try to do something to get pni and pp out into the open its just so many people are so ignorant as its like oh they are mad the totally ignorant people and others are like mental health and attach a stigma around it. Frustrating ignorance thats what it is. But anyone that reads this we would welcome the symptoms that you suffered throughout this terrible illness so we can have a more understanding of it. Newwie
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Post by susanneb1984 on Jan 25, 2006 15:32:12 GMT
One of the main reasons for me studying counselling is to get problems like pni and pp out into the open, for people to recognise them and for GP's to do more to help.
I could go on but will stop coz once I start I won't stop!
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Post by cheshire on Mar 13, 2006 22:42:53 GMT
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Post by jef on Mar 16, 2006 16:16:06 GMT
gosh that sounds pretty intense, im not surprised people dont want to talk about it it must be a dreadful condition to have / have had. I feel quite lucky that im suffering with pni now.
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Post by gail on Mar 28, 2006 16:20:56 GMT
hi ladies
could anyone tell me whether its possible to develop PP months after the birth. i feel fine in myself, but sometthing the doctor said yesterday has been playing on my mind - she said she was worried that i was going to develop PP and was relieved that i didnt, now im worried that im still at risk, despite feeling better. i thought you could only get this within days or hours of giving birth, but people's opinions seem to differ greatly with this subject.
im just a bit worried thats all.
love gailxx
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Post by cheshire on Mar 28, 2006 18:05:12 GMT
Hi Gail,
I don't know much at all about this subject - except what I have been told by my grandmother who suffered PP..
But our Patron, Elaine Hanzak (I think - just reading her book at the moment..) developed PP a few months after the birth. She has quite recently done an interview for 'Woman's Hour' which I think is on here somewhere (been looking, but haven't found the link yet - will keep looking...) - the interview gives a good insight.
HopefulX
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Post by gail on Mar 28, 2006 20:08:39 GMT
thanks hopeful...
im so paranoid now that im going to develop PP can someone please reassure me? i know you're not fortunr tellers but im feeling good and im sure theres going to be a catch. im feelng a bit vulnerable at the mo.
sorry gail x
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Post by gail on Mar 28, 2006 20:37:45 GMT
its just that i feel quite euphoric tonight - really good any happy and im not used to it ...im laughing, swinging the baby round happy acting daft running around and things i feel so good at the mo ....im paranoid that this may be the beginning of pp is this stupid?
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Post by cheshire on Mar 28, 2006 20:38:33 GMT
Hi Gail,
I hope my posting didn't make you paranoid? Didn't mean to at allxx
It sounds though like your GP has great faith in how well you're doing - could you go back and talk to her about this/ the risks etc. ? She seems to be aware of PNI etc. ...and obviously knows you so well.
Love HopefulXX
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Post by Veritee on Mar 30, 2006 11:50:23 GMT
Hi Gail
It is not at all stupid to fear when you are a little euphoric or even manic ( or have other symptoms such as thoughts even hallucinations etc that some experience with PNI) that this is the beginning of Puerperal Psychosis. Many of us have felt this fear and almost to the point that we have been scared to feel happy or lifted in case this is PP and not true happiness.
However I absolutely agree with what ‘desperate’ has said in that it is very unlikely that you would develop PP now or that there is any that you now chance that you now might – because while our Patron Elaine did develop Puerperal Psychosis later on in her illness - this is very unusual.
Puerperal Psychosis is more often a very sudden and acute illness usually requiring hospitalisation that comes on shortly after the birth within days or weeks. Only a very small number of women develop PP later – I can't remember exactly how rare it is but something over less than a thousand of all women who do get PP and PP itself is very rare anyway.
However I do understand your fears Gail that you may have PP.
There are quite a few of us on her who have been very scared that this was what was happening to us or that we did have PP or had suffered it!!!
If you read some of my past posts in this area I too felt at the time and until recently that I may have had PP- but this is a learning curve and for me as well as everyone else and it was not until I was able to air my fears that I had PP that I was able to move forward in my understanding of PNI and PP and it is now my understanding that PNI is on a spectrum and it is possible on the far end of that spectrum to have symptoms that women with PP also get without having PP itself.
I think that this fear that we have PP arises because it is not generally recognised how severe PNI itself can be. PNI is portrayed to the public as a relatively mild condition/illness but it rarely feels like this for those who suffer it.
So when we suffer it and feel so ill and out of control we can only assume that we must have something else like the ‘other’ post natal mental illness PP. It does not occur to us that the professionals have got it wrong and PNI not a particularly mild illness as often indicated to us by our doctors, HV and society but a severe and disrupting illness that while it may not be the same as acute Puerperal Psychosis it is for many a severe illness in its own right and can have symptoms that also occur in PP ( obviously as PNI runs along a spectrum there are some for whom it is relatively mild and or they recover quickly – but for others it is a server and/or long lasting illness that affects our lives drastically.
Personally Gail if you are worried about what your GP meant I would go back - as hopeful so rightly suggested - and check this out with her.
I would not think that now you have PP or that you are at risk of developing it but I do understand that like the rest of us you are probably quite shocked at the range of symptoms you can experience with PNI and how severe PNI actually can be
All the best
VeriteeXX
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