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Post by monica on Apr 22, 2009 15:25:23 GMT
Hi
Huge congratulations on your pregnancy! Take it easy as much as you can.
I'm afraid I dont' have much advice re. antids and pregnancy and what I know is what I've heard and remembered (hopefully correctly) on here, so do double check anything you're interested in.
RE: breast feeding, I believe the old er antid (tetracyclic?) can be taken whilst breastfeeding and indeed I have a friend who took these whilst breastfeeding.
I've heard that there isn't much research whether the newer ones are ok whilst breastfeeding - no doubt some of the meds will be passed on in the mild to the baby. One thought though, perhaps if you needed to take antids you could mix feed - so the amount of drug passed onto the baby would be minimised, but the baby would still be benefiting from your milk.
RE: antids and pregnancy, I've got a friend who was on prozac whilst pregnant and her son was born absolutely fine. Not sure what the risks are though but happy to ask her if you like. Again I imagine it's a question of pros vs cons of meds and sometimes if you feel well on meds this can outweigh the risks to the child.
sorry that's not much help. perhpas with midwife you can get some sort of plan - if you feel low you'll be able to get the support you need asap?
all thebest - we are here if you need us.
Monica
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Post by Veritee on May 2, 2009 6:25:10 GMT
Hi Kim It is a difficult dilemma whether to take medication when pregnant or breastfeeding. And one of course you should only make with your medical professionals. We are of course not medically trained and can only offer our experiences and opinions as people who have suffered PNI However I wrote on this thread recently: veritee.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=6565&page=1 about what the latest NICE guidelines are re pregnancy and breastfeeding re taking Anti Depressants. Which are in short: the doctor should weigh the risk to the women and child or unborn child of taking anti depressants as opposed to the risk of not taking them.
And in fact the Royal college of Psychiatrists : www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinf....epressants.aspx And it used to be thought that it was only the older anti Depressants that you could take while pregnant or breastfeeding as Monica says but more recent research has freed doctors up a prescribe some of the newer SSRI types if the doctor feels that the risks to the mothers health coupled with the babes well being would outweigh if she did not take them. But one thing that is so is that while not all doctors will take the risk there is no reason according to the guidelines to stop breastfeeding and still take Anti ds if it is considered you do need them as it is felt that to stop breastfeeding can be counter productive to the mothers mental health and as long as closely monitored and on the right medication the risks to your baby are not now thought to be that great. So please readmy post in this thread: veritee.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=6565&page=1For other links on this and other discussions by mums who took or did not take Anti Ds while Pregnant and breastfeeding and continue to talk to your CPN , GP etc and perhaps point out the NICE guidelines on this. I hope you can get an outcome to this that you are happy with and reassures you Veritee
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Post by kim on May 11, 2009 8:03:29 GMT
Hi thanks for all your help ill have a look at the links shortly Im now 27 weeks and all is going horribly wrong somewhere in my head iv decided to leave my husband i hate my life im not coping iwth my kids - especially my eldest . How i feel is scaring me . Im trying to find somewhere to go with the kids for a bit to clear my head but cant find anywhere its really confusing i have my consultant appointment a week tomorrow so i hope i see the same one who was helpful thanks x
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Post by cazfletcher on May 11, 2009 8:17:28 GMT
morning kim. sorry to hear you are struggling. you know you can talk here and feel safe, have you tried speaking to anyone on the phone about how you are feeling at the moment? samaritans are great as are nhs direct. i know its a long shot but maybe also try phoning your consultant. here for you x
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Post by kim on May 11, 2009 9:12:34 GMT
thanks hun i was meant to see a cpn today but cancelled i dont see the point i just cant get my head sorted at all
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Post by bean on May 11, 2009 11:27:26 GMT
Hi Kim Sorry you're struggling so much, just wanted to let you know i was on antids when i got pregnant (not planned) and my psychiatrist took me off them straight away, but she did a lot of research into them and put me on an older type (cant remember name but can find out if you want), i was on them from 4 weeks, right through pregnancy and breastfed my baby, i finally took myeslf off them september last year (had been b/feeding 9 months with them), for other reasons but my little martha is absoluately fine, they did checks at birth and there were no concerns whatsoever. Would just mention too, that my shrink is one of the top ones in my city and she is not altogether a fan of meds so she must have been sure that they were ok to take, like someone else mentioned, your well being is vitally important too. Keep talking Kim, lots of ladies on here know how you feel, just have a rant, it sometimes helps me feel better. take care, big hugs luv bean x
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Post by kim on May 19, 2009 10:32:30 GMT
i had my 28 week cons app today they decided to put me back on the citalopram and to stay on it for labour and delivery and more than likely whiel breastfeeding too i feel happy that im going to start to feel better but scared about the effect on baby one ocnsultant told me a while ago id have to come off them before delivery ? arghhh never happy am i lol
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Post by winegirl on May 19, 2009 18:14:31 GMT
Hey Kim
Just to let you know I replied in your other thread at the top of the board about this hun x Hope you are doing ok today??
WG xx
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Post by kim on May 21, 2009 8:44:02 GMT
Im not doing ok at all . Im not coping with the 2 children i have and cant dare to think about another . Im down and teary and my husband is an uncaring pig . i was crying last night and he asked why , i was having a goo dold moan about how naughty th ekids had been how i feel im doing something wrong ( deep down in my heart i always question if i bonded with my son or not ?) how my daughter will grow up to hate me etc . he sai dto stop being so silly an dto stop crying . So i rolled over and he says well dont go to sleep upset there is nothing to be upset about ? So i said ok then so he says well why ar eyou crying then ? i said im sttupid obviously so then he says no your not an di said well i must be if im upset yet there is nothing to be upset about ?GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I just feel i cant take anymore im dreading the weekend with him home and the kids and the mil is comming on Sunday ( i hate the nasty vile witch ) i just dont feel i want to go on anymore i wont bond with this baby - how can i ? I will spend the next 12 weeks worrying about meds ( wether i take them or not) im not sure if to pack some stuff and diaapear with th ekids i dont know where just anywhere we can sleep in the car for a few days i guess or if to tell my husband to leave and go file for divorce because i feel better on my own anyway and i need a way out i cant believe i so stupidly thought id get away with the depression during this pregnancy i have made a terrible mistake
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Post by kim on May 21, 2009 9:17:43 GMT
i just rang my cpn and suprise she has left there is a new `temperary cpn` comming in
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Post by monica on May 21, 2009 14:22:48 GMT
Hi Kim
So pleased you have called cpn - when are they coming?
Please please tell them exactly how you feel - you need lots of support and now. You really are suffering. Leaving home for a bit with your kids and sleeping in a car wouldnt' be good for you, baby or your kids, however they need toknow that you are considering these things and they are in all probabliltiy a symptom of how you are feeling. I know there are risks to taking antids during pregnancy but it might be worth it to help you feel better.
How are you doing this pm?
Love
Monica
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Post by kim on May 21, 2009 18:56:58 GMT
ty monica the cpn wasn`t interested just said ring my drs for an appointment with the new temporary cpn im hitting a brick wall alll the time im seeing my gp regarding meds on saturday am i just hop ei can hold it together till then x ty hun x
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Post by winegirl on May 21, 2009 19:06:08 GMT
Awww mate, best of luck with the GP on saturday (by the way - congrats for having a gp that does weekend appointments! A rareity!)
You dont know how you will feel re: bonding until the baby is born, and you know that even if you did struggle with bonding, this would only be for a short time... I know its just a constant fight, and it can be so tiring, but from someone who has come out the other side of this, it is so worth the fight.
Do you think you could talk to the temporary CPN??
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Post by kim on May 23, 2009 13:09:29 GMT
lol winegirl my GP surgery has just re introduced sat am surgery about time too x i doubt i could talk to the temporary cpn they know very little about my history so the whole hour is taken `filling them in` and for nothing because after a few weeks she will leav etoo i also have no baby sitter Well update been to GP today she seemed v shocked at the prescription / she obviously didn`t want me to take them which is so hard Im on 20mg every other day for a week then 20mg every day for a week then back to see her , im worried how baby will respond to them :/ Im hating myself right now anyway thats my update .
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