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Post by Weeble on Mar 10, 2011 18:11:29 GMT
Monica makes a really good point, you so scared of them because they are your worse possible nightmare, keeping trying the mindfulness techniques, when it's all too much describe the room you are in to yourself, or go for a walk and count trees.
Remember you are not alone these are really common and you are very normal having these thoughts. Your pni is a sign of your strength and love for your children.
Have you thought about keeping a diary on here, the girls here are great and talking about things really helps.
Kat
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Post by cazba on Mar 10, 2011 19:43:52 GMT
Monica, How long did you have this for? You had a hard time of it...poor you! Only ever had bad thoughts like this after the baby was born..
Keep posting!! Thanks C
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Post by cazba on Mar 11, 2011 10:47:18 GMT
Hi I seem to have these thoughts now all the time. They used to come and go but now they are sticking with me??... I am doing CBT but hard to practice if thoughts always there. My ability to rationalise is also going out the window.. Keep posting as it all helps. Thanks Please keep posting.
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Post by Weeble on Mar 11, 2011 13:54:23 GMT
Hi cazba
These thoughts are overtaking your mind because they worry you so much. Really focus on staying in the moment to control them, monica recommended a elastic band, or talk and describe your environment to your daughter, go for a walk, make a cake, even write a long post to us here. These thoughts are not you, they are the illness, you will recover and look back at this as and feel very different very soon. What medication are you taking?
Kat
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Post by cazba on Mar 11, 2011 16:50:08 GMT
Thanks all again for the posts 10mg of Cipralex in the morning and olazapine at night
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Post by monica on Mar 11, 2011 18:41:49 GMT
Hi
Just want ed to ask how long have you been on meds? it might be worth seeing your dr about a med review.
I say this as I started off on 10mg of citalopram (I believe cipralex is a newer version of citalopram with less side effects - I could be wrong though as I'm not an expert by any means!). After an initial period of approx 3 weeks when I felt dreaful, I started to improve alot. however after a couple of months I think, I started to go downhill again - tearful, panicky etc, so my gp doubled the dose. Someone told me afterwards that 10mg of citalopram is a low dose and often is not effective. That's why I suggest a med review - maybe your dosage could be increased if you find it's not really working.
My other question is how long have you felt yourself become low again wth increased thoughts etc?
I found that will pni, although overall I went from strength to strengh, I did have blips - periods when I felt really low again, but would pick up after a bit of time. These could be triggered by specific events, PMT and sometimes for no obvious reason. This is very very common with pni. I even read somewhere that blips are one thing that distinguishes pni from regular depession. Perhaps you are going through a blip now?
Monica
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Post by monica on Mar 11, 2011 18:48:36 GMT
Sorry to answer your question about my duration of pni, I got it I would say when my son was 4 months old. I had about four really bad months, then started antids. After a few weeks of feeling horrific I started pick up quickly. After about 6-8 weeks after feeling improvements I decided to go back to work. In total I would say I had pni for 2 1/4 years but during that time I felt quite well and happy for quite a lot of it but I regularly had blips when I would become very low and depressed. In time, these blips became less severe adn shorter in duration. But every woman is different - I reacted very well to the meds and once the dosage had been adjusted it was largely upwards.
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Post by Weeble on Mar 11, 2011 20:10:47 GMT
Hi yes the dose is very low. I take a lot of medication now but it has really helped. I had pni with my first child for 16 months but had no treatment. I have had it this time for 18 months but I had another baby five months ago. Monica gives good advice, how r u doing this evening kat
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Post by cazba on Mar 12, 2011 15:28:52 GMT
Hi all again I have had my third session of CBT. The therapist is good and told me these are only thoughts and it will get better. I hope so.... keep posting.. What meds were you on?
Thanks again girls
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Post by juppster on Mar 12, 2011 17:05:57 GMT
HI Cazba The thoughts really will get easier. You are still very early on with your therapy and unfortunately these things seem to take their time to start shifting. As the other girls say, 10mgs of cipralex is a pretty low dose..would you consider getting them reassessed with your gp? Hang on in their hun, this will get better with time, you will not feel like this forever x
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Post by Weeble on Mar 12, 2011 19:29:13 GMT
Hi cazba
She is absolutely right, drugs I am on fluoextine and quertiapine at the moment. I agree with juppster I would pop and see my gp about my drug dose.
Kat
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Post by cazba on Mar 13, 2011 16:08:42 GMT
Hi I have made a bit of progress since Fri in that I don't have the thoughts constantly. I have said to my nurse and she will see how I am doing and will increase dosage of antid if need be... I read that these thoughts should fade... in what way? Keep posting. Thanks all C
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Post by Weeble on Mar 13, 2011 19:16:03 GMT
What happens is you start to notice periods of time, perhaps when you are watching tv or out for a walk and they are not there. These times get longer and longer. As you recover they nearly completely disappear, and that only come for short times while you are triggered perhaps when you are angry, tired or stress. The key thing is to accept them, let them be and see them as a sign that you need a rest or need to think about what's bothering you.
My mum had them 40 years ago when I was born and has not had them for years and years nearly 40.
Kat
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Post by cazba on Mar 15, 2011 11:36:09 GMT
Hi there, Sometimes I feel conscious of them being there, if you know what I mean? How long Kat did your mum have them for?
Thanks again and keep posting... c
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Post by monica on Mar 15, 2011 16:17:00 GMT
Hiya
How are you? I think sometimes you are simply more aware of the thoughts possibly due to pmi, having a bad day, more concious of your kidsand analyse them more as a consequence. Other times you are busy and distracted. But that's how they fade and you become better at batting them awayx
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