rach
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Post by rach on Mar 30, 2005 18:40:46 GMT
hiya
it also took me 4 years to get preg , how may children have you got
i only have 1 and worry in case i have trouble again
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supernature
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Post by supernature on Mar 30, 2005 18:54:00 GMT
Only the one child for me, Steven, I don't worry about having trouble getting anymore; I'm quite glad that i don't have to take the pill to avoid it really. I'm 40 soon, so I'm too old for another one anyway. He kills me as it is.
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Post by Veritee on Mar 31, 2005 14:39:28 GMT
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Post by monica on Mar 31, 2005 20:09:36 GMT
Hi
I think the last time I was a size 6 was when I was six years old. Before getting pregnant I had a really flat stomach now it's very flabby, but my ' best bit are the stretch marks! I'm actually quite proud of them as they're my piece! I love the look of horror on other people's faces when I show them, aprticularly skinny young non-mothers. Haha! Maybe I could appear on one of those freak shows and make some money.
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Vonda
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Post by Vonda on Mar 31, 2005 20:40:44 GMT
I was a size 6 when I was about 22. I looked like a stick insect and anorexic. I might have to put a one in front of the six now, but I am much happier.
Vonda
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Post by francoise on Mar 31, 2005 22:11:21 GMT
hey vonda yeah 16 is ok aint it , im bgger than that though but hey im forever hopeful , i think i would rather be a 16 than a six for sre , it must be hard to put on weight if u are rreally naturally thinand want to be bigger but saying that its bloody hard to lose it too eh
fran xxxx
big mommas unite
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Post by josie not logged in on Apr 1, 2005 7:54:07 GMT
Hi all, just wanted to say that I also had a c-section and like all of you my stomach hangs over my scar, and have no feeling. It looks disgusting especially with all my stretch marks. Still its a small price to pay and I did put on 4 stones during pregnancy.
josie
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Post by Lianne on Apr 1, 2005 8:38:45 GMT
Posh does not live in the real world - not only does she have cosmetic surgeons, personal trainers and nannies galore but she probably also has cooks to make her food and the kids food so she only eats bird-like but fabulously presented portions and is not tempted to pick at the kids food when she is making it.
The Beckhams used to live in a smart part of the North West and they decided to celebrate their son's birthday at a local hotel close to where my sister lives (Brooklyn is exactly the same age as my nephew). The press commented that all of the guests were family or celebrities and Posh commented that the local mums were not really her kind of person - rather than being offended my sister and her mates were all rather relieved that she has not tried to join in their NCT or mums and toddler classes.
It did make me think what a strange life she must lead - other mums rely on making local and genuine friends with other mums. Before I had kids my friends were all working in the City and I didn't know any people locally. Since I had kids I have met loads of great people locally. I have found a lot of support from local mums (and dads) and local carer and toddler groups - much more than I would ever have found from my hig-powered City friends - well-meaning and kind though they are. In an odd kind of way though I can't see how I would find any common ground with Posh I do actually pity her - apart from her family I wonder how many true friends she really has had to rely on and compare notes with and who will accept the real person rather than the media image.
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Post by lisa1234 on Apr 1, 2005 18:11:38 GMT
Hi All,
I still pop in every now & then to read posts & just felt I ought to reply to this one.
I'm sure what I'm going to say will not be popular & it is not my intention to offend anyone, I am just trying to give the other side of the story.
I am very lucky to be someone who had no problem sheding the weight after my baby's birth and pretty quickly. I did not do this through an army of 'helpers' but I guess I am naturally slim & breastfeeding certainly helped. Perhaps the lack of time to make myself food was also a part of it!!! It is generally ok for people who are larger to call us skinny folk & say we're not natural or 'real' women & we just have to take it on the chin. Sometimes, this is hard u know!!
Nobody knows what posh is like as a mum & unless we do, surely it is not fair to make judgments on her ability as a mum. As a working mum, I do not spend as much time with my baby as other mums but that does not make me less of a mother. She might be a fab mum, yeah she may not ... but we don't know.
So, give her a break. Shes a mum lke us & just cos she has the money to get a nanny etc etc doesn't make her a bad person. Hey, I'd love a nanny sometimes!!
Lisa xxx
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Post by Veritee on Apr 2, 2005 10:38:19 GMT
Hi Lisa
Thank you for putting the other side of this Lisa.
I don’t think anyone intended to get at women that are naturally slim, but I think perhaps we have been a bit unthinking as for most of us the issue is being too big after having a baby, or generally putting on weight after a baby or when feeling down.
However I for one should know the other side of the weight issue as one of my closest friends is 51 years old weighs less than 6 stone even after children and struggles to keep her weight up to an acceptable level.
She is always being accused of being anorexic , but is not at all, she lived with me for over 2 years and I saw her eat loads, far more than me, in fact he metabolism is so fast she can not skip a meal or she faints, I often skip meals and when we go out we always have to stop for lunch.
I do not have anything personally against posh or any celeb, I think the point I was trying to make is that we can not aspire to the same as them as we do not have the money ( and yes if I had the money I would certainly have a personal trainer too) and when you are ill with PNI it is not helpful to compare yourself.
I guess the same goes for women who are slim or even thin, my friend does not worry as much about her thinness, but does worry about her lack of boobs and curves, I moan about too many curves she about too few, but it does not help to compare ourselves with each other or anyone famous - as we are just who we are.
So I think that’s what we were trying to say.
I agree that it is not fair to judge anyone on their ability as a mum.
I don’t think this was intended though, the problem is if someone sets themselves up to be in the public eye we all feel we have a right to talk about her as if she was the friend down the road, and most people do goissip in my experience as gossiping is mostly a way that people make sense of their world and others behaviours and lifestyles and make up their mind our attitudes towards it.
When we gossip we often put the most extreme ends of spectrum of how you can look at someone behaviour or lifestyle so we can test out how we feel with feed back from others and come to an opinion on how we feel about something.
I think this is all that was happening here
But I would not want this thread to lead to any bad feeling on here - I just saw that it as a way of indirectly venting feelings about the expectations many feel under as mums and how difficult it is to live up to them and I think most of the posts are about the feelings and concerns of those who wrote them more than celebrities really.
But I agree that maybe we should not go on with this thread as it may offend and maybe making judgments for any reason about weight or lifestyle could be too personal for this forum
So perhaps we should leave this one here
All the best
Veritee
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collette
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Post by collette on Apr 2, 2005 13:53:36 GMT
hi folks
I wish i never started this stupid thread now. i certainly did not want it to develop into an offensive issue.
i thought i would just make a point about people's esp celebs images and how this affects us. i am sorry if i have offended anyone and this was certainly not my intention. i am probably just a jealous horrible person for saying this about posh spice. she has a fantastic figure and i don't.
she is prob a fantastic mum and i am not most of the time.
anyway don't want to say anymore just that am sorry i started this thread.
collette
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Post by lisa1234 on Apr 2, 2005 17:48:11 GMT
Oh Collette, I'm sorry
Of course u are not a bad mum.
Please don't feel bad about starting the thread, I do think a healthy debate is important & was not trying to upset anyone, I guess I was just trying to get my point across. I do find it hard to put weight on & sometimes it gets me down. In some ways maybe I'm trying to say that I'm thin & still not happy, so its not always something to strive towards. The happiest I've been was when I was a lot bigger than this.
Anyway, thats me for now. I just want everyone to know u haven't offended me & I hope I haven't either. I'm just trying to say what it's like for us skinny minnies.
Love Lisa xxx
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Post by Veritee on Apr 2, 2005 19:32:04 GMT
Dont worry Collette Lisa or anyone.
We were only havign a disscussion and I know that no one wishes to upset anyone,
It is just a debate and interesting to see others perspecitves.
But when we have PNI we can be very sensitive - least I was - very.
All the best to you all
veritee
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Vikki
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Post by Vikki on Apr 2, 2005 21:26:39 GMT
I think the feeling we were all trying to convey, was the role that the media have in these issues, and were using Mrs Beckham as an example, we don't want to be told that you too can do this, when it is obviously not possible for most mums. But the media surely has to take some responsibility for making people like us judge ourselves against these women.
There was another front page article in a magazine showing how suzanne Shaw lost a stone since she gave birth in Jan of this year, these aren't realistic goals for most women.
I do understand that some women are very naturally slim, my sister being one of them, she desperatly tries to put weight on, and often has to buy children's clothes as size 6 hangs off her.
I think it was a very valid point, and as in all debated we need to hear both sides of the case, so I think well done to all of us for having a wonderful adult conversation!!!!
Vikki
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