our little ones

[banana]

Hello all ( veritee i have tried to send you a pm but apparantly you dont exist - maybe i am using the wrong user name )

I was just wondering if we could have a section on the site for any problems/advice etc with regard to our little ones. I know if I need advice about izzy I usually post it on this section but i feel that its not maybe the right place because this should be for PNI related threads and dont want to post things in irrelevant places.

Do we already have this and I just cant find it?

Obviously im not trying to make more work for you veritee as the site works brilliantly as it is....... but i just sometimes dont want to ramble on about isabelle and what to do if this.... and what to do if that......

Basically I dont want to hijack the PNI forum with questions about the bub, i dont want to be seen as a neurotic mother but if I have something to ask and im looking for advice I would feel better about posting if there was a particular place to do this.

I have totally rambled and im certain I could have made this shorter but I havnt, so hope nobody has fallen asleep reading it.

If everyone is fine with posting on this part of the forum about our baba'a then thats fine - just thought it might annoy some people???

Anyway my reason for starting this is because im looking for advice on making the transition from moses basket to cot and anything that worked for anyone else??

Thanks

Lana x

[Veritee]

Hi Lana

I think this is a great idea and I will do this


You are quite right - it would help to have a section for baby/child issues.

What do you think I should call this section?

As to my user name - I think you have to use 'Veritee' with a capital Vto PM me

all the best

Veritee

[time]

Yeah i think that is a great idea too.

As for the transition from the moses basket to cot there are a couple of ways that you could try it that i thought of;

1. put the moses basket in the cot for a few days (if it will fit- mine didnt)

2. Put Isabelle in the cot for her day time sleeps to begin with so that she can get used to it during the day before putting her in during the night. (i did this one)

3. put her in the cot to play whilst you tidy your/her bedroom

These are just suggestions and i hope that they are of some help

Take care and keep us posted
Time

[banana]

Thanks time.

I have actually stuck her in her cot in her moses tonight but she has woken up twice and not been too impressed but i will persevere.

Veritee, how about you call it ' words of wisdom ' or some such nonsense??

Lana x

[susie]

hi Lana,

I think the things that worked best for me was like Time suggested putting them in to the cot during the day, to play while you tidy around them or for their day time nap, kind of gets them used to it without the crankiness at bedtime! Hope it all goes well for you, mine both loved the cot!

Keep us posted, take care

Susie
xx

[lisa1234]

Hiya Lana,

I also did what Time & Susie suggested and put my little one in the cot for her day time naps. We put a mobile & lots of (safe) things hanging off the side of the cot for her to play with too. She loves her cot and regularly wakes up early and plays on her own in there & falls back to sleep so we sometimes even get a lie in!!

Something else that is quite good & I don't know if you have one but we have her in a sleeping bag rather than covers. She feels more secure & can never wriggle under the covers or throw them off & get cold.

Good luck with it all, hope it goes ok.

Love Lisa xxx

[Josie not logged on]

Hi Lana,
I totally agree with what the others say. I used to put the moses basket in the cot but went away for a few days and forgot it. So I just put her in a travel cot. When we came back I put her in to her cot into her own room. Few sleepless nights at first but now she sleeps through. The sleeping bags are fantastic too - I've used them on G since she weighed 10lb.

Josie

[wendabell]

yep i too tried to put the moses basket into the cot.but unfortunatly for me all three of my lil uns are a little bugger when it comes to sleep patterns and naps.
My problem has and still is that they love to be cuddled off to sleep.who wouldnt right.but i have tried and tested all the methods available to man to get my lil uns off to sleep on their own and the only thing that has so far worked for me is time....yes after about two years of cuddles they finally dont mind going up to bed.just got to see if this works with kiddy number three as she is only 18 months old at the mo.
On a positive note though,over the easter hols i finally moved tansys cot into her big sis,s bedroom which will be her permanent residence now and i thought oh yep lots of sleepless nights ahead here......but wait for it ....no.
how shocked was i to find that she loves it in their so much that she even sleeps over in the morning and hasnt over the hols risen before 8am.finally after nearly 6 years a lay in bed in the mornings...ahhhhhhh.
But about the cot issue after all my experiences and advice given to me in the past by friends and health officials about how i should be doing this and that i have come to the conclusion that babies just make their own routines and adjustments and as long as we dont feel apprehencive as they pick up on bad vibes then just go with the flow and do whatever works.
I know there are plenty of mums out their that proberbly shake their heads and say oh you should get baby into a routine and make him or her do this or that.And if it works for them then thats great.All im saying hunny is that i tried everything under the sun with my kids from controled crying to having them in bed with me and i found the more i fought a routine the more they rebelled so in the end i relaxed and soon as i did they did .
MMn dont know if this is making any sence now so i will sign off for now.
Just dont worry too much about it hunny
love and hugs wendy x.x.x

[banana]

thanks all,

Well its the second night of her being in her sleeping bag in her moses basket inside her cot. Needless to say that she wasnt very happy. She was sound asleep when i took her into her room - woke up as soon as i put her down. I am guilty of cuddling her to sleep every night so i know it is going to be difficult for her but I cant cuddle her to sleep all the time - she is just going to get too clingy. I do feel guilty as my mum used to cuddle me to sleep every night until about the age of 7 - sounds silly i know but we would always have a chat and a cuddle and she would lay with me til I fell asleep - i feel like maybe I am being mean but its just not how I want to spend my evening when I havnt seen Richard all day.

Anyway she is asleep at the moment and in her cot like I wanted. Its just heartbreaking when I know she is so upset when she is in there and when I go in to pick her up and say its ok and put her down again she is sobbing - but perseverance has seemed to work so far.

Feel like a bad mummy but I know what im doing is what I want in the long run.

Lana x

[time]

Hi Lana

You are not a bad mummy it is just a hard step to take and remember she is only little. I dont blame you for wanting to spend time with Richard after all if it werent for the two of you being the two of you there never would have been an Isabelle.

The sleeping bags are a good idea in the cot. I find that my little one always riggles around in the cot so much so that she ends up sideways or her head being were her feet are supposed to be. I have even found her a couple of times with her head at the foot end under the covers which is quite scary. At least with the slleping bag it wasnt so much of an issue, also there legs dont get stuck in the bars as hers frequently do without it. I just find now that she gets too hot in her sleeping bag.

Anyway good luck with it all
Take care
Time

[wendabell]

lana, hunny at the end of the day it is what works for you and your in no way a bad mum for instigating a routine.
i am a little enveous of anyone who can as i have always struggled with routines and my kids.
although i do wish i had time to spend with my hubby in the evenings when my lil un wont sleep i know that at the end of the day it wont last forever.They grow up so fast and then they want to be independant and not want us so much .As i found out with my kids they settled eventually into their own routine themselves and have no problems and i thought they were going to be clingy but no way of that one there either.
So stick with it if it works for you all girl and dont worry,your doing a grand job honest .

[Veritee]

Hi Lana and all

I agree with everyone that you have no need to feel guilty. Everyone has to do what is best for you and your family and what they can achieve. Your mum may have preferred spending that time with you rather than her husband - she might have had her own needs that meant she needed it too and who knows if would have been best for you to learn to go to sleep on your own as you did not actually get the choice to know what you preferred and this was what you were used to.

You may find that once she get used to this, your babs prefers it!!!

I like Wendy found routines really difficult and pretty much until she was 2 met Caja’s need at her demand - as and when she needed it - and in fact she slept in my room with me until then despite us having a room for her and a cot.

I just took the route of least resistance because, but for me their were additional factors. I was breastfeeding and often in the night (she was a very small baby born under 4lbs and only 10 lbs at 10 months and she had a hole in the heart which caused her not to grow. I was told I had not option she could not go through the night without a feed until she was nearly 3 - apparently babies have to be a certain body weight to go through without needing a feed, I think round about 12 to 14lb approx..

Anyway when she finally had reached 14ib and began at last to sleep through and I thought for my own sanity I had to have her sleep in her own room and in her cot and go to sleep on her own ( after a story & cuddle)

I thought their would be 'hell up' and I felt so very guilty for putting my own needs first.

And indeed there was, for about 4 nights it was hell indeed, then on the next night she went to sleep with no problem and has never looked back!!

She vastly prefers her privacy and since that day NEVER wants to sleep with either of us and has never ended up in our bed even when ill.

So give it a try and do not feel guilty - most do in the end prefer the privacy of their own room and own cot or bed , and if you do not give it a good try, you will never know.

If I had ever had another child I would not have hesitated to do this as soon as they could go through the night without a feed - I prefer to have a child in my own room until then as you do not have to wake up as much to feed them.

Anyway my advice is do what suits you and your family - everything even how you care for your child is a compromise, others have needs as well as your child ( even factors outside the direct family such as needs relating to jobs and friends all have to be considered)

- and if you successfully set a president in the care of your child/ren that to meet everyone’s needs in your family you compromise and negotiate -

your chidl/ren will grow up with great respect you for this and will have learnt how to do this too - and everyone has to be able to do this to have good relationships.

I know that you may not relate getting your child to sleep in their cot as part of this learning to compromise negotiate and consider the needs of others - but for a small child thus very much is a learning situation.

You may well not succeed first time either - maybe it will work now or maybe it is not the time for her now (Caja was fully ready for her own room - and I agree I left it a bit too long)

But if you do not try - you will not know

So I think you are doing a grand job here

All the best

Veritee

[Vonda]

I did the same - I put Jo in her carry cot into her normal cot for a few days of a night but just in her cot for her daytime sleeps. I think after a few hiccups she got to like it cos she realised that she could see through the bars and that she could see mummy in bed. I hope this helps - it's worth perservering.

I like the idea of a section about our kids too - it's nice to be able to get advice without feeling you are misusing the forum. Veritee, could you please put my thread about kids driving you nuts in here too, if that's ok with everyone. Thanks.

love Vonda

[banana]

Thank you again everyone and thank you Veritee for making this new section on the forum, i think its brilliant!

Isabelle is on her third night in her room - still in her moses. Im going to put her directly into the cot tomorrow night. I have compromised a bit. What I have been doing is giving her a bottle then cuddles for 10 mins and then into her cot once she is asleep -seems to be working but who knows how its going to carry on.

Lets hope its the start of sleeping through, well, at least until the teeth start coming through!!

Lana x