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MMR
Nov 8, 2007 18:50:02 GMT
Post by Scarlet on Nov 8, 2007 18:50:02 GMT
I have to take bubs for his MMR in a week or two. I remember when my eldest was little, I took him after all the controversy had just broken surrounding the MMR and autism, and I worried for a while beforehand (didn't have PNI). This time 10 years on, history is repeating itself, & I'm still as worried..... Have you taken your kids?
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MMR
Nov 8, 2007 20:16:02 GMT
Post by southerngirl on Nov 8, 2007 20:16:02 GMT
Probably not the best person to answer as I dont vax. My older kids had the MMR though without any problems. Its not an easy choice for you to make, they dont make parenting easy do they Liz x
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Nov 8, 2007 20:31:38 GMT
Post by scarlet not logged on Nov 8, 2007 20:31:38 GMT
I'd thought about not vaccinating as well Liz, but decided to in the end. Am still unsure about the MMR though...hmmmmm what to do.
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MMR
Nov 8, 2007 21:15:24 GMT
Post by Gizmoracer not logged on Nov 8, 2007 21:15:24 GMT
Both mine have had it, and no probs, if that helps. To be honest I don't know anyone who has followed through not having it done, although I do know a few who worried about it.
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MMR
Nov 8, 2007 23:19:25 GMT
Post by bam02 on Nov 8, 2007 23:19:25 GMT
My son has Aspergers syndrome and early on didn't talk - so thought his Austitic specrtum disorder was worse than it is. Now he is nealy 13 and at mainstream school with support and doing Ok but has stilted social skils...
But my daughter is 5 and stll had bothe her jabs 18 moths and pre school... not easy but better than the side effects of the measles - now on increase and rubella ...
maybe this wont help.. but i think my son's autistic spectrum disorder is genetic his paternal grandfather is rather odd and I think with help he could have adapted better to his world
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 8:01:23 GMT
Post by Scarlet on Nov 9, 2007 8:01:23 GMT
Thanks ladies for the replies... I'm not so worried now, everything will be fine I know it.
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 8:15:46 GMT
Post by stevensmummy on Nov 9, 2007 8:15:46 GMT
Hi Scarlet,
You picked up on something i actually know quite alot about, so lucky you lol. I studied biology at uni and also have an autistic nephew. After the hudrums of 10+yrs ago, about the time I was due my second vacc to be honest this big issue came up. And it really in its majority is all crap.
The autisim link is mainly genetic, its to do with a genome link in a certain location, I cant remember which, not that its important. What the media failed to promote was that MMR does not cause autism, it increases the liklihood of an appearance in an autisticly tendant child, as BAM said its possible to have autistic tendancies and there is speak of autistic spectrums. Its rather complicated, but the basis is that autisim needs to be present in the genone for it to appear. And yes your child may have an autistic tendancy but trust me you would have noticied by now. From what I recall it was only in a few minortiy cases and within a direct category and under nothin like clinical trials did they come up with this assumption. In honesty but dont quote me I actually think it was a molecular basis the study (meaning not done on a child -basically a test tube) which in reality is only showing a confidance interval thats not very relaibale as it wasnt a clinical trial.
My honest oppinion the results of this biological fiasco have caused far worse side effects from the actually illnesses than what the vaccination has caused. Personally I'd not even consider not vaccinating. Measles and rubella are on the increase, is it worth the risk.
Hope that helps
Sarah x
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 8:30:46 GMT
Post by Scarlet on Nov 9, 2007 8:30:46 GMT
Thanks Sarah,
I did a lot of research on it at the time as well (10 years ago), and still decided to go ahead (I did worry at the time though). My eldest, did have attention problems (I noticed at an early age ~ lack of eye contact etc) and I was worried what with all the hype at the time. If I remember rightly it was to do with the mercury content (thimersol), but I believe they have now replaced that with something else....not sure.
Anyways my eldest is fine these days, but having PNI has made me a bit more edgy I have to admit, always that niggly feeling in the back of my mind....but you are right the pros outweigh the cons, and I've already booked the appointment.
Thanks hun.
Scarlet X
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Nov 9, 2007 14:22:08 GMT
Post by southerngirl on Nov 9, 2007 14:22:08 GMT
I agree that a lot of it is down to genetics but there was a lot of people who firmly believe that until certain jabs their kids were fine. My personal opinion is that its like everything in this world, one person may react to one thing but the next person doesnt. As for vaxing or non vaxing it is always a subject that brings out strong feelings. I dont vax and I will stand by my decision, its what parenting is all about Liz x
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 15:23:15 GMT
Post by Scarlet on Nov 9, 2007 15:23:15 GMT
its what parenting is all about
Course it is hun, and I respect your decision, it's blooming difficult at times being a parent...
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Nov 9, 2007 15:29:33 GMT
Post by marion on Nov 9, 2007 15:29:33 GMT
HI Scarlet
It's difficult to know what's right isnt it but I'm sure you will make the right choice. Go with your instincts.
Lots of love Marion.
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 16:51:28 GMT
Post by southerngirl on Nov 9, 2007 16:51:28 GMT
I sounded really shirty in my last post lol, didnt mean it like that. I just get so many people questioning what I do that I just wanted to say that nobody has managed to change my mind yet so I can stand my ground. Oh I give up, no matter what I say it comes out wrong lol. Full of cold and head full of cotton wool is my excuse. Liz x
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 17:09:26 GMT
Post by stevensmummy on Nov 9, 2007 17:09:26 GMT
Dont worry liz I dont think its a bad oppinion not to vax, but being a biologist I dont agree. I think its exactly as you say a parenting decision, it is difficult being a parent isnt it! I actually did a study on uni in my third year on autism (mainly because of my nephew) and a percentage of it was on the MMR vax, and now you say scarlet I do remember somthing about the Mercury (in saying that too much mercury can have other adverse effects too), but what exactly I cant recall. That will annoy me now and I will prob rake thro my notes to see lol.
Whatever you decide I think its your decision and as marion said go with your instincts.
Sarah x
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 17:11:07 GMT
Post by Scarlet on Nov 9, 2007 17:11:07 GMT
LOL Liz ), I understand totally what you mean, and nope you didn't sound shirty...I've been on sites where mums have chosen not to vaccinate, and I have friends over here who chose not to as well. Myself I waver a bit , but I'll prolly go with the MMR in the end, if I can get the pediatrician to talk me around after I question her, she did the last time when my 10 year old was one... but we'll see next month when I take bubs for his appt. Also, they won't let the kids over here go to the school unless you can prove that they've had all the injections. Saying that I stopped at the MMR with my eldest and he never had any boosters.
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MMR
Nov 9, 2007 20:16:41 GMT
Post by winegirl on Nov 9, 2007 20:16:41 GMT
Just adding my bit in. My little one has had all her jabs and I wouldn't have it any other way. I couldn't face not doing it and then having the risk of her catching measles, rubella and such the like.
However, I think it is an interesting debate, and fully respect other people's decisions not to hve the Jab's like Liz. It's so difficult to be a parent and make these decisions, but i tend to trust the medics at the end of the day, they are paid alot of money to make these decisions.
Winegirl x
p.s Scarlet - I have forgotten, where do you live?
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